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neil
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« on: April 18, 2007, 05:05:45 PM »

This is of interest to me as the location for partially terriforming a small (size of Australia) portion of Venus and the 11 kilometer peak a few hundred kilometers from the North pole of Venus. A snow fence with a radius of about 2000 kilometers surounds the pole and the 11 kilometer peak. Fence circumfrence about 12,566 kilometers catches dust, raising the elevation. Portions of the fence need to be moved or replaced anually. In about 10,000 years, the area inside the fence may reach an average elevation of 11 kilometers, with some parts perhaps 20 kilometers. The high elevation cools the platau to perhaps 300 degrees c. Many sunshades in the upper atmosphere and/or orbiting just above the atmosphere cools the platau to about 200 degrees c. This allows it to rain sulpheric acid on the platau. Just before the first rain falls the lower portions of the platau are covered with an impervious layer, so the acid does not sink below the surface of the platau which is likely still hot enough to boil sulpheric acid. Over about 10,000 more years nearly all of the sulpheric acid in the atmosphere of Venus will be trapped in artificial acquifers of the great polar platau. Venus can then be bombared with ice comets, which will permit real water rain to fall on the polar platau. With a new giant sun shade which is transparent only to photons best for photo synthesis, we can now grow crops on the highest elevations of the polar platau. Genetically altered humans can tend these crops naked except for an oxygen face mask. Since the atmosphere is still about 90% carbon dioxide, a prothesis is need to remove carbon dioxide from the blood. It may take a million years to get the carbon dioxide of all of Venus below 1%, even with extensive agriculture on the great polar platau. There are numerious ways to hurry the terriforming process, but most require enormous resourses. More details later.
Please embellish, refute and/or comment  Neil
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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2008, 06:16:30 PM »

Why terraform Venus when it is perfect the way it is. The air pressure is so great that we can float cities well above the surface heat and pressure. They can easily float at a level that has the right temp and pressure for humans to survive quite well. We could even move enough to create a (close to) 24 hour day instead of the 112 (earth day) nights on the surface we would have the sunlight and darkness for Earth stuff to thrieve. Don't think ballons, think large ships...air craft carriers...cruise ships...they could be linked and large cities could be built. The very great air pressure is used as an asset instead of a great problem to be overcome.

As an added bonus solar engery would be much better than on Earth. With the reflection of the sun off Venus it wouldn't even matter which way we directed the panels.
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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2008, 08:03:50 PM »

If your aircraft cariers ect have an average density of more than one kilogram per cubic meter = 1/1000 th the density of water, they will float below the cloud tops of Venus where the sulpheric acid clouds are found, and little solar energy is available. CNT = carbon nano tubes may permit a low enough average density to stay just above the cloud tops which I agree is ideal, except the habitats will fall if large quantities of carbon dioxide leak in. I agree linking them (with air locks) makes falling very improbable as it is very unlikely more than one would have a bad leak. Floating cities high in Earth's atmosphere have much the same problem, except the inhabitants might survive the fall of their habitat to Earth's surface.   Neil
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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2008, 11:37:02 PM »

If your aircraft cariers ect have an average density of more than one kilogram per cubic meter = 1/1000 th the density of water, they will float below the cloud tops of Venus where the sulpheric acid clouds are found, and little solar energy is available. CNT = carbon nano tubes may permit a low enough average density to stay just above the cloud tops which I agree is ideal, except the habitats will fall if large quantities of carbon dioxide leak in. I agree linking them (with air locks) makes falling very improbable as it is very unlikely more than one would have a bad leak. Floating cities high in Earth's atmosphere have much the same problem, except the inhabitants might survive the fall of their habitat to Earth's surface.
I posted something similar on another thread. You could build cloud nine structures on venus (http://stevendejonckheere.blogspot.com/2006/08/cloud-nine.html). These could be made into 2-part domes with one section providing lift and one made for habitation. The main section could be lower pressure and heated by solar panels. The atmosphere might be a combination of oxygen, nitrogen and helium. CNT materials would enable you to get more bouyancy. We may eventually have a large number of these structures and use ceramic balloons to ferry robotic miners and ores up and down from the surface. We could also harvest the sulfuric acid and the CO2.
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